Nos russian versions are the best, but are scarce and expensive. The datasheet that arrived with each of the tubes were all in russian, and i. Gibson thor tube amp page 3 telecaster guitar forum. B80, glas cylinder tube bulb envelope with dome top.
Next time try to find 6p3s e version, e stands for military use, its long life tube, and better than standard. Data book index tfiles index klausmobile home mail c klausmobile 2001. Some confusion has been created in translating these designations, as they use cyrillic rather than latin characters. That list is in ascending order with the best last. I just found a very interesting paper a complete list of all transmitting amateur radio stations in 1926 in the ussr, club stations, as well as personal ones. The free shipping option allows tubedepot to choose the most appropriate carrier and service.
General purpose tetrode 6p3c mediumhigh gain, suitable for low frequenxy af. I have a couple of sets of 6v6gt tubes electro harmonix and tung sol 6v6gt. The 6p3s is a very fine sounding tube if and only if used it is used with the proper transformer, a higher impedance transformer than a 6l6gc. Before the advent of semiconductor devices, thousands of tube types were used in consumer electronics. All structured data from the file and property namespaces is available under the. It is remarkable, that the frequencies and power levels of club stations are selected in such a way that ensures reliable traffic between distant regions and moscow the farther station from center, the higher its power and shorter its. Duncans tube data sheet locator pointed me towards city radio and oldradio.
Vacuum tubes produced in the former soviet union and in presentday russia carry their own unique designations. Please give your contribute add a tube to this list. I have seen the sovtek 5881 run at 500 volts on the plate. Matched pair 6p3se 5881 6l6gc tubes gold logo gold grid. Highquality russian 6p3se 6p3se 6p3ce 6p3ce output beam tetrode. In addition to the data i have scanned and posted, if youre looking for data on a particular tube you should visit tsdl on duncanamps website, or franks tube data. This tube is not built to the same standards as the mil spec 6p3se tube. Enter values in blue and click any calculate button select the tube type from the scrolling list. That data sheet is also total baloney in terms of maximum voltages. The tube sticker on my 66 fender princeton no reverb calls for 6v6gt power tubes. Highquality russian 6p3se 6p3ce output beam tetrode.
Each file contains the information on all updating of a onetube type also the static and dynamic curves. I am working on posting the rca hb3 tube handbook on line on this. Purchase russian 6n2peb 6ax7 vacuum tubes online, in stock and ready to ship. I have about 100 hours on them but break in only took about 20 or 30. I dont have a scope, so this is the maximum voltage as read by my multimeter, not a clean sine wave. The biggest advantage that this tube has is that it is still cheap to purchase. At present time, these data are most complete and exact. These were built for the soviet military to the most stringent standards. At present time you may find the tube only in the p. Some folks say the sovtek 5881 is a rebranded 6l6gc and not the 6p3s. Unlike the el34 power tube, 6l6 tubes generally sound a little cleaner and tend to have a bit more beef in the low end as well as more bite on the top. Nov 26, 2008 in 1973 libyan leader muammar algaddafi claimed the gulf of sidra as territorial waters. This is a list of vacuum tubes or thermionic valves, and lowpressure gasfilled tubes, or discharge tubes.
I think data for these tubes is frequently misinterpreted. Or are the currently sold sovtek 5881wxt simply relabeling old stock russian military tubes i. The following list shows the tube types i have entered in my database, with exception of the service types e. These valves are a great budget yet high quality alternative to el84 or el86 in lower power guitar amplifiers, vintage record player amps or other single ended amps. Ive never been very trusting of the regular 6p3s non e version in a 6l6 amp, theyre lighter duty. I have tried lots of different 6l6 variants in these amps including jjs, shuguangs, seds, jan philips, groove tube 6l6ges, sovteks, etc. I do have an adapter that will plug into each tube socket, and then the tubes into the adapter. If you need the 11 roll chart, it will be a pleasure for me to send you a copy. Tube bias calculator rob robinettes car and tube amp website. I dont have the data sheets in front of me, but i thought they were similar. No data is found on this tube, except for the filament power which is 3.
My experience, even when biased to 6l6gb standards, the 6p3s does not have a good tone or. Is the current labeled sovtek 5881wxt tubes manufacturerd under the new management of new sensor different then the tubes labeled as 6p3s e or 6pi3cev which are the old russian military spec tube made during the cold war. Developed by philips in 1953 for use in the british mullard 510 amplifier, t he el84 pentode tube, or commonly known as 6bq5 in north america, was intended for use as an inexpensive alternative to the larger audio tubes of the time, such as el34, 6l6, and kt66 power tubes. The part thats cooking my noodle is the data sheets for the 6l6gc and 6l6gb seem to have the same data. For comparison, i have a second b52at100 which has two sed 6l6gcs and two eh6l6gcs. They have a very good balance of low end and detail. Many industrial, military or otherwise professional tubes were also produced.
If your tube isnt listed then pick one with the same max dissipation rate which is shown to the right in the tube list. The 6p3s 6n3c is an equivalent of the famous 6l6gc tube and will replace them directly. The 6c33 russian tube is another that has no western or chinese sub. It is possible to use a 6p3s of either design in any place that was designed for a 6l6, and they will usually work in place of a 5881. Versions that should work interchangably are the 6c33b, 6c33c, and the 6c18c, but check with your equipment dealer first. I have the spec sheet for the russian 6p3s with and without the e aka 6n3ce and the operating voltages are indeed quite low. So the chinese tube manufacturers designated the tube 6n3p. Some players prefer the extra clarity and punch of the 6l6. The beam power part tells us that the tube, as rca put it, is a tetrode or pentode in which directed electron beams are used to increase substantially the powerhandling capability of the tube. Fender has been using them since the 1940s and since then there have been many others who have designed hugely popular tube amplifiers that rely on the 6l6 tube types for their tone. For an el84 equivalent more suited to higher power push pull amps with higher ht voltages.
You can find exacter data, having investigated the characteristics of a tube for a mode used by you in the circuit. Sansui used the pl36 thats also a 25e5 as an output tube in several of their amps. Ussr lot 6cn5 tetrode 6l6, output 6l6, soviet 6p3se beam. As for claimed electrical parameters, these 6p3se 63 and 6p3sev 63 tubes has less current and voltage deviations than common 6p3s but according to my subjective opinion wwii 6p3 tube was a best performer in this family. The only reason why we know it is a high voltage rectifier is that the base tells us so. I had asked mike samra, tube guru and contributor to this forum,for his recommendations on a substitute for an el34 tube. You can use the search to find service types or go to the service type lists that you can access from the page more tube related stuff. At the times the influence of the tube technique was very strong. Heres a pic of a 6p3se that is ok in place of a 6l6gc made by reflector.
Ecc82 dual triode as a preamplifier, em84 as a vu meter and two 6p3s output pentode, anode voltage. Although 6n3p designation came from russia, russian 6n3p was actually a copy a very good one at that of us double triode tube 5670. Bias the amp to your ears not some text book setting. The tubes are nos new old stock, rather vintage but in. Dd9200037b assembly module, 6p3s e 6l6, 6cn5 output beam tetrode soviet ussr reflector lot 4pcs,vintage zenith 52 radio working a2 automatic tuner unit w driver rod. This tube is not built to the same standards as the mil spec 6p3s e tube.
Oct 17, 2005 either way, the same result, and my 6p3s e s and the kt77s should work. Highquality russian 6p3s e 6p3se 6p3c e 6p3ce output beam tetrode. The following guidelines should be taken into account. Today, you see chinese made 6n3p tubes on many tube amps from china today. Substitutes are given as a guide only please refer to original manufacturers data sheets to ensure that a substitute is safe and appropriate for your application. Both data sheets above show a target value of 6mav for transconductance, with an acceptable range of 5. Another spot to look, which is especially useful if youre looking for replacement types and tubes with similar bases or characteristics, is the nj7p tube database.
There are two basic russian designs of 6p3s, one of which is like a 6l6 internally, and the other is an original russian design. I measured the maximum voltage by playing with the gain and volume knob. Tube 6sj7 or rohre 6sj7 id2716, vacuum pentode, octal int. Can anyone give me advice about these tiny wireended pentodes. Must see audio note p2se singleended class a tube amplifier 2x 6h9c tubes 4x 6n3ce tubes detachable power cord in the late 1970s hiroyasu kondo started audio note in japan with the sole intention of creating the worlds finest sounding audio equipment.
The 6p3se is the military version of the 6p3s with a coin wafer base. The beam tetrode design of the 6l6 allowed rca to circumvent philips pentode patent. I know this link and my jackson is ok, im just missing some data forms for older tubes. Remember that normal 6p3s is like 6l6, while 6p3s e is 6l6gc, in most datasheets you will find max v for both about 250v, but many people use them with much higher values good replacement for fender amps.
Tube 6p3p or rohre 6p3p id46591, beam power tube, octal int. General purpose tubes in miniature, octal or larger glass packages. I n 194647 the metallic series was extended by quite a number of new valves. Its a great little triode tube, but its not well known there is a several excellent 6n3p equivalent tubes that allows for tube rolling opportunity. The sansui receiver not to be confused with the a the ea receiver and also another amp used this as an output tube. I have used shuguang el34, groovetube el34, russian nos 6p3s e, electroharmonix el34 and the electroharmonix 6ca7. First it appeared as metal tube, then in several glass versions, e. Audio asylum tubes asylum questions about tubes and gear that glows.
The 6p3s gets a lot of trash talk and some sing its praises. Gaddafi named it the line of death, crossing this line would invite a military response. A feature of a beam power tube is its low screengrid current. All structured data from the file and property namespaces is available under the creative. Hi everyone im back after a long break and hope youre all ok.
I ran a set in a twin reverb for a couple of years running about 475480v. Domestic receiving tubes and their foreign counterparts by. Tube 63 or rohre 63 id3565, beam power tube, octal int. The electric data except heating voltage and the base were the same as in old valves. For the first time it was usual metal 6l6, but later was chosen glass bulb design in order to avoid overheating, so just before the wwii tube factories started to produce 6p3 63 valves. There is a key between pins 1 and 8 to ensure that the tube can only be plugged in one way. Look for mab to find the line showing transconductance. List of vacuum tubes wikimili, the free encyclopedia. Nos nib current matched pair soviet military 6l6gc 6p3s. My experience, even when biased to 6l6gb standards, the 6p3s does not have a good tone or life expectancy. Russian 6p3s, 6p3se 6n3c, 6n3ce general tetrode, used in output stages of low frequency amplifiers. Melius club e il ritrovo dei cultori di tutte le passioni sospese tra arte e tecnica, appassionati sempre alla ricerca del miglioramento. Vacuum tubes, sockets, capacitors, nixie and electron tube accessories.
The tube is manufactured by the reflektor, saratov, russia. Mesa boogie d180 matching output tubes the gear page. It is possible to make a tube transmitter for one evening, a tube receiver for two evenings. The chinese 6p1 and the russian equivalent 6p1p also have no western equal. And, i also dont know if the bias will be correct, as this is a fixed bias design, and no means to adjust. If i could work out how to post attachments, i could upload the datasheet sides 1 and 2 that arrived with each tube, which i scanned. Gerald weber wrote in one later book that people always asked him for a.
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